REBUTTED: “America is held hostage by flyover states”

Think of the most smug, elitist, “holier than thou” article you can imagine, typed up by a trendy hipster with 20 foot long sticks to reach his keyboard from atop his purebred high horse. Then imagine that article on steroids.

I feel disgusted reading such garbage, and I constantly need to remind myself that I have AdBlock on, and that I’m not contributing to the funding and continuation of said garbage (luckily, unlike the previous article I rebutted, they allow me to avoid doing so easily).

I will of course respond to the full article by Duane Townsend of The Hill below, but if you wish for some masochistic reason to view it directly for yourself, you can do so here.

The predominant narrative coming out of the 2016 presidential post-election analysis is: The flyover states have spoken.

A flyover state is the huge region between the coasts. As opposed to the eastern seaboard, northern post-industrial states and Pacific Ocean states. They’re overwhelmingly Republican, stanchly[sic] conservative, regressive right wing, evangelical Christian and working class, well, the loudest, most ill-informed of them are. The term wasn’t commonly used in a political manner until recently with the emergence of the Tea Party and the election of Obama.

I’m not quite sure what is being said in the second paragraph, simply due to bad grammar. If you wanted to say that the people fitting your adjectives were loud and ill-informed, you could have said “They’re overwhelmingly Republican, staunchly conservative, regressive, right wing, evangelical Christian and working class. Well, the loudest, most ill informed of them are.”

Maybe you were saying that people in “flyover” states were the most loud and ill-informed of all Americans, in which case the “are” at the end was a typo of “all”.

A visit to Wichita, Kan., isn’t on the bucket list of many Americans. Whereas most travelers fly over Fayetteville, Ark., and Springfield, Mo. They’re not destination spots. The flyover state gripe has nothing to do with the tourist industry of Oklahoma or Nebraska or Iowa. This is about their perceived feelings of abandonment and disrespect from their government. Never mind they’ve elected local, state and national representatives that should reflect their values and interests.

Forsetti’s Justice writes:

“Government has not done enough to help them in many cases but their local and state governments are almost completely Republican and so too are their Representatives and Senators. Instead of holding them accountable, they vote them in over and over and over again.”

Now they’ve elected Donald Trump, the ultimate coastal elite. Trump pandered to their bigotry, and anger at Washington, D.C.

Just because Donald Trump is successful and from a coastal city, doesn’t mean he would fit the criteria for being a “coastal elite”, or elitist, the kind of person which you seem to be implying that middle Americans would not be fond of. He, if his campaign is any indication as to what kind of a person he is, actually cares about Americans, including the “flyover” ones people like yourself look down upon. He talks about issues that affect them, such as illegal immigration which harm middle-class jobs, and not those of elitist pseudo-intellectual snobs like yourself.

Or, as you so unoriginally put it, he “pandered to their bigotry”.

The more entrenched the flyover voting bloc becomes in their voting habits, the further they fall behind economically, by voting against their own interests, the more they blame Washington, D.C. and coastal “liberal elites” for their issues.

They’re not silent or a majority 

This is a voter demographic fond of describing themselves as hard-working middle-class Americans. Which they are. They’re overwhelmingly middle-aged to senior, white, semi-rural, increasingly suburban and indignant. They seem to be perpetually enraged every election cycle, and after, according to the results.

They either want their country back or they’re tired of being ignored. They regularly blurt the latter as justification for electing right-wing theocrat/closed minds, austerity minded, cultural fascists to office. These are people that use more government subsidy than any segment of the country, but they hate “handouts” to anyone else. They are the largest consumers of SNAP benefits, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

The flyover states are the main reason Congress is irreparably broken.

While I’d be the last to defend baby-boomer Republican conservatism (in fact a lot of the time I hate it even more than leftism) or any kind of welfare, corporate or social, I can at the very least acknowledge that the people of these states, with a larger percentage of “middle-aged to senior” citizens, as you recognized, than coastal states, require more medical care than younger people and believe that since they paid into the system with their taxes, they are entitled to receive benefits from it, and that it is a different situation than that of people receiving “‘handouts'” from a system into which they have not paid an equal amount. Whatever you may think of them, your stereotype in this circumstance is not hypocritical, as you seem to attempt to portray them. Just thought I’d point that out.

In the presidential election of 1968, Richard Nixon won 301 Electoral College votes, despite only receiving 43 percent of the popular vote. Third-party candidate George Wallace siphoned off 13 percent of the southern Democrats, which split from the Democratic Party altogether in 1972, via Nixon’s southern strategy. Virtually the same dynamic propelled Bill Clinton to office in 1992, albeit through different electoral politics. Clinton’s election was due less to racial/cultural issues, more economic.

Are you suggesting that Trump’s election is due to “racial” issues? Cultural, sure, but race has nothing to do with it. If it did, the “racist” parts of the country you’re talking about wouldn’t have elected and re-elected Barack Obama, who as I’m sure you know is black.

Since the inception of the term silent majority almost 50 years ago, and all of its iterations since, this block of voters was hardly a majority and never silent. This group has been exceedingly adept at dominating the narrative in virtually every election cycle. They’re proficient at dog-whistle propaganda, and since the mid-1980s, they’ve created their own media echo-chamber which exponentially multiplies the sound of their own voices, with no interference from outside sources. This was accomplished mainly with coast to coast a.m. radio stations broadcasting 24/7 right-wing indoctrination, to conservative patriot and alt-right conspiracy theory websites of the last 15 years which disseminate tragic half-truths and whole fake news.

SJWs always project. Anytime I hear anyone in a big-name mainstream media company (not that The Hill is big-name. I honestly don’t know, I’ve only just heard of them today) accuse anyone else of residing in an echo-chamber I have the urge to simply laugh it off. The fact that people like yourself were utterly shocked at the election of Donald Trump and must shrug it off as an uprising of bigotry and hatred from flyover country, as well as your constant misconstrual of rural and suburban culture, shows that you have no true understanding of what these people believe and have surrounded yourself with politically correct sophists like yourself for far too long.

The alleged silent majority is deafening and easily provoked. They reside in their own echo-chamber bubble of indignation about everything from “New York values” (urban, ethnic rights, LGBT, social justice), to the war on Christmas and Black Lives Matter. They mocked and derided all people’s protests from Occupy to #NoDAPL. Their old standbys are opposing a woman’s right to choose, reinstituting school prayer and eradicating “big government.” They hate progress. Their idea of American values is straight from circa 1870.

Perhaps they just don’t think that the continued strengthening of government power and amplification of social justice warrior hysteria is in fact progress.

Hillary Clinton garnered more votes than Trump, 2 million more votes. However, that doesn’t preclude flyover state Trump voters from claiming a landslide and mandate. In 2012 and 2008, Mitt Romney and John McCainreceived[sic] more votes while losing than Trump did in 2016. Yet American-values Trump voters still proclaim a “make America great again” Trump-style mandate. They’re delusional in their belief that their views are more important, more valid, more ethical, and more patriotic than any other groups. They claim American Christian values, home, God and country. White values. Any dissenting viewpoints are taken as literal acts of war.

Anyone who questions the narrow vision of Middle America Christian values, being forced on 325 million people of multiple cultures, religions, no religion, and a mosaic of ethnicities, is deemed ungodly and un-American.

It’s clear cultural fascism.

A lot of middle Americans believe in smaller government, states’ rights, and the decentralization of power. If in this they got their way, they wouldn’t need to force their beliefs on the rest of the country in order to prevent those of coastal, urban populations being forced upon them. If the federal government had less power in relation to the states then states like California or New York could implement their own abysmal policies of social “justice” and leftism while central and more conservative ones could stick to their Christian family values and such. It’s big government proponents (perhaps such as yourself) which brought this into reality.

American cultural progress has gone regressive

The United States is in social and cultural check. The poor will get no practical relief. Living wages will remain a distant dream. Healthcare costs will remain the major source of bankruptcy. Environmental issues will intensify to unknown crisis proportions. Women’s reproductive rights will be under constant attack and eroded. Race relations will devolve to tribal levels of disdain and mistrust.

The American melting pot will become a cauldron boiling over with contempt.

“Living wages”, by which I can only assume you mean a high minimum wage, doesn’t raise the income of people who otherwise would have earned less. It just makes people who are worth less (as a result of being inexperienced and unskilled) to employers than the minimum wage less employable. If you really want to give the poor “practical relief”, lower or abolish the minimum wage so that they can get low-paying jobs instead of none at all.

Healthcare costs are high because of government intervention. Trump’s policies will decrease government intervention in healthcare, thus lowering the cost.

As for race relations, they have already devolved under eight years of Obama.

There is a cultural war happening in America, it’s in the cold propaganda phase, going back to the 1990s. The election of Trump signals this cultural conflagration will heat up.

Yes, the country has been critically divided for two decades, I don’t know how we find treaty and consensus, while truth is so dishonored and mocked.

To Trump voters: You allowed your bigotry and anger at the system to be cynically exploited yet again, by regressive, wealthy demagogues. I have little sympathy for you. I for one will not be contorting myself to “give Trump a chance” or seek common ground with you.

You need healing, not allies.

Ooh, the saltiness. I love it. I also thank you for not trying to find common ground with us. I myself would be truly disgusted if I found out that I agreed with you on anything.


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